In general, our relationship works like this. When we’ve mutually agreed that one person should be in charge of something whether it be doing a chore, making a purchase, or planning an event, the person in charge gets to make the decisions. When it’s something that pertains to one person alone, that person gets to make the decision.
And then we had a baby.
Because of our respective work schedules, I am solely responsible for Dragon during the weekdays. And because of social conditioning and individual ability, I’ve been the one making the majority of the decisions about how Dragon is raised, which, for an infant, is basically about food, sleep, and play.
There’s no dispute about sleep schedules; we only wish he would sleep longer and better. There’s no dispute about play and social interaction. And Mr. Lee has always been supportive of my choice to breastfeed and then my need to supplement at the beginning.
Then we got to solids.
Now, before we go further, I need to point out the mommy wars in Western culture often revolve around food. So this isn’t entirely an East/West parenting issue. And personally, I have stopped any form of philosophical parenting and taken a more – ‘what’s good for us and scientifically reasonable is what we’re going with’ sort of approach. That means I breastfeed despite obstacles and qualms about certain approaches to breastfeeding advocacy, and I started solids at 4.5 months because it was the right time and recommendations are just that. Recommendations. I also puree food because I like to and spoon feed for now because it works for us, but if the little Mr. takes something age appropriate and size appropriate from my plate, that’s okay too. In short, breast milk is great, purees are great, finger food is starting to be great. Breast milk is good for him and solids are good for him. All is good right?
Well, we went to the 6 month government sponsored baby wellness-esq check, and the dr asked if Dragon was eating beef. No. Chicken? No. Eggs? No. Fish? Um…no. A wide variety of fruit and vegetables (brussel sprouts even!) and lots of iron fortified pablum…yes. But the dr didn’t care about those things.
So then I got a big talking to. Because all 6 months old should be eating those 4 things. They should, specifically, be eating mackerel I was told. Really? I said in an exasperated voice which was unfortunately interpreted as a question. Yes. I was making my son anemic because he wasn’t getting his daily serving of hanwoo.
Now, agreeing to raise Dragon as a meat eater has been my big concession in parenting thus far. I made it for various reasons, but a primary reason is that we live in Korea, and he will be attending Korean daycare and kindergarten and school and kids have meals made for them at these places. And there’s always meat. And nobody is ever going to respect the crazy foreign mother’s request to omit that meat from her son’s portion. So I know that whether I like it or not, he will eat meat. And I was planning on starting meat from around 8 months. But because I feed iron fortified pablum, and because I breastfeed, and because I like the idea of introducing things slowly over time, I didn’t feel that the moment a kid turns 6 months he needed to be eating mackerel.
The same day we went to a second dr (our usual ped) for vaccinations, and I was again reprimanded for not giving my 6.5 month old meat. This of course started getting Mr. Lee antsy. He was already secretly worried I think about me the vegetarian REALLY agreeing to feed our son meat, and then he heard from drs that denying our son meat for the past two weeks was harming him.
And this is where intercultural parenting is fun. Because yes, I am the one who is preparing food and feeding Dragon most of the time, so from my perspective, I get to make the decisions.
But Dragon is not entirely mine. And we are not living in my culture. And to be honest, although people will say ‘your child is YOURS and YOU know what is best for YOUR child,’ that’s not entirely how most people see it. Society sees your child as theirs, family and children’s services see your child as theirs, breastfeeding or anti-circumcision or anti-spanking advocates see your child as theirs, and older generations sure as hell feel your child is a piece of them and that they have a right to have at least a little bit of an opinion. The validity of these claims is up for debate depending on the issue and situation, but at the very least, our child is ours. He’s Canadian and Korean and at some point there’s bound to be some disagreements as to how to deal with that fact in day to day decisions about how we raise him.
Plus, being outside of my culture, and trying to interact in a language I’m not fluent in means that I can’t always express my ideas adequately, or explain cultural differences like how our rice cereal is fortified with extra iron unlike most homemade juk. And of course, not being raised in this culture, I don’t always know what people expect as normative here in order to prepare my defense of my way or even prepare for the controversy. Anyway, needless to say, I didn’t respond well to the doctors, and I got kind of pissy.
Then I took a little break and tried to be rational again. And I tried to give up a slice of my monopoly on how Dragon is raised even if it’s really me putting in the time and raising most of the week. And I decided that my husband and the doctors shouldn’t be lumped together. I should talk and discuss and find a compromise with my husband. And in matters that are really not important, I should smile and nod and carry on when it comes to others.
So I started Dragon on chicken but only chicken at 7 months. He’s not a fan
But I fully realize it takes kids some time to get used to different tastes and textures, so I try every so often in different combinations to see if he will become a fan eventually. And Mr. Lee is okay with no mackerel. Because he is our son. And we should find a middle ground in an honest way because we are raising a child together and can work together to find a good solution for all.
And then when Dragon and I went for a follow up vaccination, and when the dr. started berating me about meat and how my seven month old MUST eat meat at EVERY meal, I refrained myself. I didn’t talk about how often he consumed meat. I didn’t talk about how my culture does it. I didn’t talk about iron fortified foods or the fact that a whole lot of kids don’t take to meat or solids in general for quite some time. I just put the hint of a smile on my face, agreed to the general principle that iron is important, and said, that yes, indeed we had started ‘meat.’ Less is better, and appearance of agreement is good enough in this situation.
I’m learning.
SY will be 8 months in a few days and the only solids she gets are fresh fruits and the occasional vegetable. I don’t take her to well-baby visits mainly cause I am not the smile-and-nod type and cannot stand it when someone tries to give me crap, especially someone in a white coat. Luckily DH doesn’t know she can have regular check-ups for free (how does it work? do you get a text?) and he knows better than to discuss baby-related stuff with me! She is happy and healthy and I plan to keep meat off her plate for as long as I can
It was actually a requirement for day care although I’m not sure if that is our daycare or daycares in general? I don’t do well with unsolicited or unnecessary advice either but as I realize it’s never going to stop here, I’m trying to work on ways to deal with it that doesn’t compromise my beliefs and ideas. Still a work in progress though ㅋ
This reminds me a lot of my situation in Italy. Considering the unsolicited advice can often be impossible to avoid, I have found (with great psychic effort and discipline) that the tight-lipped-smile-and-nod is an especially valuable skill to hone as an expat mum. Love this post.
Yes! It is impossible to avoid. As much as I try, I keep encountering it, so it is all about developing the necessary skills to let it bounce of of you!
What are some differences you have found in terms of Italian advice vs your home culture?
Too many too list! The latest is an older female relative of my husband’s who tells me each and every time I see her that I must stop breastfeeding my two-year-old or else it will be impossible to conceive again!
I think it’s less an East/West issue than a vegetarian/non-vegetarian issue… In my (relatively short) experience, non-vegetarians are much less knowledgeable than vegetarians regarding nutrition. In my case, and I don’t think I’m an exception, I did lots of research when I went veg to be sure I would not risk any big deficiencies, and learnt a lot of things I would never have suspected had I continued to eat meat (and that most people around me aren’t aware of). My own doctor (here in France) admitted he didn’t get any serious training in nutrition at the university, and ready-made ideas about meat and protein intake die hard… It may be the same for “Western-trained” doctors in Korea too. On the contrary, I went to an hospital specialized in traditional Korean medicine and the doctor I met there was the first to suggest I could benefit by giving up meat. She was extremely knowledgeable about food and what it does to your body (and spoke a perfect English). Have you considered bringing Dragon to a traditional medecine hospital, which might have a more open-minded and less conventional approach ?
I suspect this problem is also complicated by the fact that some people, in Korea, seem to associate not eating meat with being poor ; that’s partly the case with my in-laws, for whom eating an expensive piece of 한우 (Korean beef) still feels like a little victory on poverty.
The day before we left Korea, two weeks ago, my FIL was grumbling about my being veg that was “unhealthy”… until Omonim reminded him that their own children grew up mostly vegetarian, not out of choice but just because they couldn’t afford meat or fish, and that it didn’t prevent them to become fine, healthy young men. I love my Omonim !
Sorry for the long comment !
“…eating an expensive piece of 한우 (Korean beef) still feels like a little victory on poverty.” – That’s brilliant Ms. P. So true.
And yes, people who aren’t vegetarian don’t always know that there are other sources of protein other than animals. I’ve often thought about changing our ped. We started off with a very nice one, but she left and we got stuck with one who, I’m sorry to say, is a bit stupid. However, there’s not a lot of options in our area, I’m back at work and have no time to go to other areas, we’re well established at that hospital, and I only ever go there for vaccines. The baby wellness check up we had no choice as we needed the document for daycare, but apparently you are supposed to book far in advance and that was the only doctor who would take us on short notice. If, God forbid, Dragon develops some particular problem that I don’t feel is being dealt with properly at his current hospital, I’ll take him elsewhere, but for now I feel like I have a pretty good handle on how I want to approach nutrition, and so it’s just dealing with 5 minutes of ridiculousness now and then.
And yes! Your Omonim sounds amazing!
About Italian doctors… My mum’s ped friend told me I should give my then-four-month-old pasta with a sprinkle of parmesan cheese. Of course, I replied with a sarcastic tone, I’ll go ahead and give her gluten and dairy, and how about a nice tiramisu to finish off? I was glad we spoke the same language cause when he seriously replied “No, no desserts at this point” I knew it wasn’t a language problem!
This is so fascinating- but only when you’re outside of it, when you’re living it it’s just frustrating! My husband and I lived in Korea until our daughter was 6 months old (we are both Americans). We planned to start solids (mostly still purees, though) when she was 6 months, but then we had a huge transnational move back to the US and she really didn’t start eating solids until she was closer to 7 months. We went to 4 and 6 month check-ups at our hospital (the same hospital where she was born) and doctors NEVER gave us grief about not starting solids yet, let alone hounding us about mackerel and the like. I wonder if there weren’t two things at work here:
1) All doctors are different. Like you said, it’s not an East-West issue. I’ve seen a few different pediatricians in the US now and some are very pro-solids and some repeat the saying “food before one is just for fun.” It’s just more frustrating in Korea because of the language barrier.
2) Our daughter is not Korean, not even a little bit. As a white baby I wonder if doctors just thought of course she wouldn’t eat such “Korean” things as mackerel. I’ve had Koreans tell me they believe Korean and Western bodies are different in terms of how they digest and benefit from food, so this must apply to babies as well. It’s a fascinating topic to explore- I’m doing a PhD (anthropology) on Korean family issues now, and this could be an interesting topic to address in an article later! I collected some Korean parenting magazines while I was there and many had little recipe books attached. I was amazed at some of the things that were being fed to little babies!
Our daughter is 13 months now and she eats everything, and with gusto. Starting solids late didn’t do her any damage, and she generally only eats meat about once a day, at dinner, and not every day even. So don’t worry too much, smile and nod (definitely the best approach in Korea), and do what makes you (and your husband, of course, and that’s the tricky balance part!) comfortable.
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Hi!
I’m from Germany and I don’t intend to annoy you.^^ But I read several times that solely vegeterian feeding for babys could harm them. I’m not a vegetarian myself and I didn’t look at this topic in detail but vegetarianism is quite common in Germany, I guess as much as in Canada/US. Just wanted to say that the critics is not necessarily about West/East thing.
I think you’ve misunderstood the post. My baby is not being raised on a vegetarian diet. The issue is if babies must eat meat the moment they turn 6 months. Most parents I know introduce meat for last after their children have eaten a wide variety of fruits and vegetables. In addition, six month old breastfed babies get the majority of their nutrients from breast milk. Solids are just additional nutrients and a way to try out different textures and tastes. And many babies don’t even want to eat solids until much later in their first year. My sister refused solids until she was 9 months. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of misinformation about childhood nutrition, and when there is good information, people conflate the needs of a toddler with the needs of a 6 month old.
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What about broth? Doesn’t have to be solid.
I just found your blog and have to say i started crying when i read about one of dragons hospital updates where you had to use breastfeeding to get them to let you hold your baby and feed him. You are one strong lady. This was a very good insight for me to convince me not to move to korea as well. My husband is korean and im an american, he doesn’t remember it and no family in contact either. I could not handle most of the things you have discussed like this post about being berated about the meat consumption. I simply would have flipped the fuck out on them. Thank you for sharing all that experience.
msleetobe – I just read this as the first post on your blog. I guess you don’t get many guys on this blog but I’m fron the UK and my wife is Korean. We are both living in Singapore, which is basically and English speaking country. As I was reading I could totally feel the utter frustration leaping out at me from the computer screen of not being able to fully express your feelings on such an important subject to the doctors directly. I often feel that my wife perhaps feels the same as you did when trying to fully express her frustration with certain matters when speaking in English.
I’m fascinated by your story and looking forward to reading more.
Hi nampyuniagi. I have some male readers, but some of the ones who comment tend not to make the most supportive comments
Thanks for reading and sharing.